Comments on: Google Conspiracy Theory New Search Marketer Tactic http://www.socialmediaexplorer.com/2008/01/19/google-conspiracy-theory-new-search-marketer-tactic/ Thu, 20 Nov 2008 10:02:02 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.3 By: Google Conspiracy Theory New Search Marketer Tactic - Affordable Website Marketing - Just another website promotion and online advertising weblog about seo and search engine marketing http://www.socialmediaexplorer.com/2008/01/19/google-conspiracy-theory-new-search-marketer-tactic/#comment-952 Google Conspiracy Theory New Search Marketer Tactic - Affordable Website Marketing - Just another website promotion and online advertising weblog about seo and search engine marketing Fri, 01 Feb 2008 19:19:09 +0000 http://www.socialmediaexplorer.com/2008/01/19/google-conspiracy-theory-new-search-marketer-tactic/#comment-952 [...] post by Jason Falls and posted by Alfred [...] [...] post by Jason Falls and posted by Alfred [...]

]]> By: Mark Dykeman http://www.socialmediaexplorer.com/2008/01/19/google-conspiracy-theory-new-search-marketer-tactic/#comment-879 Mark Dykeman Mon, 21 Jan 2008 15:06:38 +0000 http://www.socialmediaexplorer.com/2008/01/19/google-conspiracy-theory-new-search-marketer-tactic/#comment-879 I'm glad I read your post and Tad's as well. I’m glad I read your post and Tad’s as well.

]]> By: Jason Falls http://www.socialmediaexplorer.com/2008/01/19/google-conspiracy-theory-new-search-marketer-tactic/#comment-874 Jason Falls Sun, 20 Jan 2008 20:05:35 +0000 http://www.socialmediaexplorer.com/2008/01/19/google-conspiracy-theory-new-search-marketer-tactic/#comment-874 Tim -- Thanks, so much, for stopping by. I appreciate the Collective Thoughts community stopping over to discuss the issue and certainly recognize that no one voice speaks for all of the community writers there. Tad is controversial and that does attract attention, traffic, etc. Certainly those are not bad qualities to have as a blogger. However, there is a difference in being edgy and controversial and being childish and mean. Flamers are the latter. Smart bloggers are the former. My knowledge (albeit limited) of you and several other Collective Thoughts contributors is that the group is a complimentary (not drones) collection of voices and perspectives from the world of social media, professionals who enjoy analysis and discourse of the topics. In my opinion, Tad crossed the line in this particular piece to someone spewing baseless accusations and throwing personal darts. Like it or not, that does detract from the reputation of the blog and I hate to see that happen. As a reader (community member) of Collective Thoughts, I wanted to make sure the perspective was heard. In my opinion, he was out of line getting personal and needs to be held to a higher standard in terms of backing up wild claims with fact, not just "come to my blog, I'll show you" propaganda. If we are the new media, there are some elements of the old media we should uphold and pursue, both individually and from the collective. Fairness, accuracy and common decency are three of those. Thank you again for coming here and offering the insight and perspective. I look forward to any counterpoint to Tad's post anyone there might offer. Tim — Thanks, so much, for stopping by. I appreciate the Collective Thoughts community stopping over to discuss the issue and certainly recognize that no one voice speaks for all of the community writers there.

Tad is controversial and that does attract attention, traffic, etc. Certainly those are not bad qualities to have as a blogger. However, there is a difference in being edgy and controversial and being childish and mean. Flamers are the latter. Smart bloggers are the former.

My knowledge (albeit limited) of you and several other Collective Thoughts contributors is that the group is a complimentary (not drones) collection of voices and perspectives from the world of social media, professionals who enjoy analysis and discourse of the topics. In my opinion, Tad crossed the line in this particular piece to someone spewing baseless accusations and throwing personal darts. Like it or not, that does detract from the reputation of the blog and I hate to see that happen.

As a reader (community member) of Collective Thoughts, I wanted to make sure the perspective was heard. In my opinion, he was out of line getting personal and needs to be held to a higher standard in terms of backing up wild claims with fact, not just “come to my blog, I’ll show you” propaganda. If we are the new media, there are some elements of the old media we should uphold and pursue, both individually and from the collective. Fairness, accuracy and common decency are three of those.

Thank you again for coming here and offering the insight and perspective. I look forward to any counterpoint to Tad’s post anyone there might offer.

]]> By: Tim Nash http://www.socialmediaexplorer.com/2008/01/19/google-conspiracy-theory-new-search-marketer-tactic/#comment-873 Tim Nash Sun, 20 Jan 2008 17:36:00 +0000 http://www.socialmediaexplorer.com/2008/01/19/google-conspiracy-theory-new-search-marketer-tactic/#comment-873 Collective Thoughts is a group blog made of individuals if we vet or edit each others posts we would never get anything done :) This means things will be posted that not everyone within the group agrees with and indeed we have had several posts already where members of the group have gone off and written their own responses to a post (Indeed the recent post on the <a href="http://blog.venture-skills.co.uk/2008/01/15/social-media-optimisation-industry/" rel="nofollow">Venture Skills blog</a> is a good example along with Tads follow up argument). Tad has a unique style he is always controversial and he certainly gets people discussing his ideas even if people don't agree with them. Collective Thoughts is a great platform for all of us to get over our points of view but just because we all blog on the site doesn't make us all drones quite the opposite I'm sure at least one of us will no doubt jump to the defence of Google at some point in the future. Collective Thoughts is a group blog made of individuals if we vet or edit each others posts we would never get anything done :)
This means things will be posted that not everyone within the group agrees with and indeed we have had several posts already where members of the group have gone off and written their own responses to a post (Indeed the recent post on the Venture Skills blog is a good example along with Tads follow up argument).
Tad has a unique style he is always controversial and he certainly gets people discussing his ideas even if people don’t agree with them.
Collective Thoughts is a great platform for all of us to get over our points of view but just because we all blog on the site doesn’t make us all drones quite the opposite I’m sure at least one of us will no doubt jump to the defence of Google at some point in the future.

]]> By: Jason Falls http://www.socialmediaexplorer.com/2008/01/19/google-conspiracy-theory-new-search-marketer-tactic/#comment-872 Jason Falls Sun, 20 Jan 2008 16:31:55 +0000 http://www.socialmediaexplorer.com/2008/01/19/google-conspiracy-theory-new-search-marketer-tactic/#comment-872 Doug -- Thanks for the input. I normally don't get concerned with random flamers who are just trying to attract attention, but this post was on Collective Thoughts, a community blog started by a friend and populated by several very smart, very good people I've met and become digital friends with. The fact that this type of writing would be endorsed by them (one of them actually submitted his article to bookmarking sites, surely to drive traffic, but still) shocks me. Perspective is one thing, seemingly baseless hate is another. I'm wrestling with whether this post is a slip through the cracks or an indicator of the true nature of the other folks involved with the website. If it's the latter, I'm really disappointed. Doug — Thanks for the input. I normally don’t get concerned with random flamers who are just trying to attract attention, but this post was on Collective Thoughts, a community blog started by a friend and populated by several very smart, very good people I’ve met and become digital friends with. The fact that this type of writing would be endorsed by them (one of them actually submitted his article to bookmarking sites, surely to drive traffic, but still) shocks me. Perspective is one thing, seemingly baseless hate is another. I’m wrestling with whether this post is a slip through the cracks or an indicator of the true nature of the other folks involved with the website. If it’s the latter, I’m really disappointed.

]]> By: Doug Heil http://www.socialmediaexplorer.com/2008/01/19/google-conspiracy-theory-new-search-marketer-tactic/#comment-871 Doug Heil Sun, 20 Jan 2008 16:25:31 +0000 http://www.socialmediaexplorer.com/2008/01/19/google-conspiracy-theory-new-search-marketer-tactic/#comment-871 Good post. Your suspicions of him are correct. I think most of the "social" people out there are simply failed REAL SEO's. What he fails to understand is that social media is NOT SEO and will never be so. It's a part of internet marketing just like SEO is a part of it. MANY out there love to criticize and bash and trash Google. It's fashionable in the SEO and social media sphere these days. The next best search engine will get trashed as well. It's a form of internet marketing to people like Tad or chad or whatever his name is. Don't concern yourself with those types as they are not worth it. Good post. Your suspicions of him are correct. I think most of the “social” people out there are simply failed REAL SEO’s. What he fails to understand is that social media is NOT SEO and will never be so. It’s a part of internet marketing just like SEO is a part of it. MANY out there love to criticize and bash and trash Google. It’s fashionable in the SEO and social media sphere these days. The next best search engine will get trashed as well. It’s a form of internet marketing to people like Tad or chad or whatever his name is. Don’t concern yourself with those types as they are not worth it.

]]> By: Jason Falls http://www.socialmediaexplorer.com/2008/01/19/google-conspiracy-theory-new-search-marketer-tactic/#comment-870 Jason Falls Sun, 20 Jan 2008 04:38:02 +0000 http://www.socialmediaexplorer.com/2008/01/19/google-conspiracy-theory-new-search-marketer-tactic/#comment-870 Hey Rodger -- I'm on Ning for the Social Media Club and for RobbysUprising.com, a fan site for Robby Gordon. It's a pretty powerful tool and simple to use and administer. Good luck getting folks to use it in Indy! Hey Rodger — I’m on Ning for the Social Media Club and for RobbysUprising.com, a fan site for Robby Gordon. It’s a pretty powerful tool and simple to use and administer. Good luck getting folks to use it in Indy!

]]> By: Rodger D. Johnson http://www.socialmediaexplorer.com/2008/01/19/google-conspiracy-theory-new-search-marketer-tactic/#comment-869 Rodger D. Johnson Sun, 20 Jan 2008 01:32:35 +0000 http://www.socialmediaexplorer.com/2008/01/19/google-conspiracy-theory-new-search-marketer-tactic/#comment-869 Jason, Happy Birthday (albeit belated) by the date of this post. Harry's 9-part series a nice run. And I don't know if you seen this, but Ning has a web 2.0 social media platform out. Now anyone can have their own social network. Check <a>Ning</a> out. I'm going to try and convince our Hoosier PRSA chapter to adopt it. Jason, Happy Birthday (albeit belated) by the date of this post. Harry’s 9-part series a nice run. And I don’t know if you seen this, but Ning has a web 2.0 social media platform out. Now anyone can have their own social network. Check Ning out. I’m going to try and convince our Hoosier PRSA chapter to adopt it.

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