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	<title>Comments on: Ad:Tech Chicago: Can We Please Stop Preaching to the Choir?</title>
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		<title>By: The 5 Critical Responsibilities of Social Media Experts &#124; Social Media Explorer</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Nov 2008 10:01:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] I attended ad:tech Chicago this summer, I took exception to Clay Shirky&#8217;s statement that it’s no longer a matter of [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Six Social Media Keys for Businesses &#124; Open Source Blogging</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Aug 2008 04:01:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] I came across Jason Falls&#8217; blog, the Social Media Explorer, during our review of the Junta42 Top 42 Content Marketing blogs.&#160; Really enjoyed his takeaways from last week&#8217;s ad:tech Chicago.&#160; Jason&#8217;s top six points are below. Make sure to check out the full post here. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] I came across Jason Falls&#8217; blog, the Social Media Explorer, during our review of the Junta42 Top 42 Content Marketing blogs.&nbsp; Really enjoyed his takeaways from last week&#8217;s ad:tech Chicago.&nbsp; Jason&#8217;s top six points are below. Make sure to check out the full post here. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: KatFrench</title>
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		<dc:creator>KatFrench</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Aug 2008 10:57:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Matthew - &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Thanks for the feedback, and sorry to hear that you had a bad experience at ad:tech Miami.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I think #3 is a particularly hard pill for a lot of agency folks to swallow.  Getting a corporate website from conception to go-live is SUCH an exhausting process; I think it&#039;s disheartening to hear that now, building a great website just isn&#039;t enough.  Disheartening, maybe, but true.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Matthew &#8211; </p>
<p>Thanks for the feedback, and sorry to hear that you had a bad experience at ad:tech Miami.  </p>
<p>I think #3 is a particularly hard pill for a lot of agency folks to swallow.  Getting a corporate website from conception to go-live is SUCH an exhausting process; I think it&#39;s disheartening to hear that now, building a great website just isn&#39;t enough.  Disheartening, maybe, but true.</p>
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		<title>By: Matthew Chamberlin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matthew Chamberlin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Aug 2008 18:57:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Holy crap, what a great post!&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I went to ad:tech Miami recently which was billed, predictably, as focused on the Latin market. Same story, different ad:tech. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Luckily, I had won tickets to go. Had I paid full freight, I would have been screaming bloody murder. I&#039;m not sure if they were even preaching to the choir. Half the people didn&#039;t even know what church they were in.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Your takeaway #3 is spot on. I JUST got through trying to explain this point to a client.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I could go on for 10 pages echoing everything you just said, but you already said it beautifully.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Holy crap, what a great post!</p>
<p>I went to ad:tech Miami recently which was billed, predictably, as focused on the Latin market. Same story, different ad:tech. </p>
<p>Luckily, I had won tickets to go. Had I paid full freight, I would have been screaming bloody murder. I&#39;m not sure if they were even preaching to the choir. Half the people didn&#39;t even know what church they were in.</p>
<p>Your takeaway #3 is spot on. I JUST got through trying to explain this point to a client.</p>
<p>I could go on for 10 pages echoing everything you just said, but you already said it beautifully.</p>
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		<title>By: JasonFalls</title>
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		<dc:creator>JasonFalls</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Aug 2008 00:45:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: KatFrench</title>
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		<dc:creator>KatFrench</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Aug 2008 23:11:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kipp - I&#039;m going to give up on the video reply for a bit just to be sure I respond to you today.  Yes, you have a point that conferences can provide opportunities to evangelize and educate people on social media--but at a conference that is billed as primarily a training for those in the industry, it&#039;s a little disappointing when YOU don&#039;t get the opportunity to learn anything new.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Regarding your comment that &quot;Social media is a way of life,&quot; reminded me of a post I read on &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.social-media-optimization.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;www.social-media-optimization.com&lt;/a&gt; about the differences between your generation, Gen Y, and mine, Gen X.  For Generation Y, social media is fully integrated in your way of life--you can&#039;t separate it out.  For Generation X, it&#039;s a set of tools.  But either way, tools or lifestyle, you learn through application and personal experience.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;MartinEdic - That&#039;s the consensus I keep getting -- enjoyable, but not that informative.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kipp &#8211; I&#39;m going to give up on the video reply for a bit just to be sure I respond to you today.  Yes, you have a point that conferences can provide opportunities to evangelize and educate people on social media&#8211;but at a conference that is billed as primarily a training for those in the industry, it&#39;s a little disappointing when YOU don&#39;t get the opportunity to learn anything new.  </p>
<p>Regarding your comment that &#8220;Social media is a way of life,&#8221; reminded me of a post I read on <a href="http://www.social-media-optimization.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.social-media-optimization.com</a> about the differences between your generation, Gen Y, and mine, Gen X.  For Generation Y, social media is fully integrated in your way of life&#8211;you can&#39;t separate it out.  For Generation X, it&#39;s a set of tools.  But either way, tools or lifestyle, you learn through application and personal experience.  </p>
<p>MartinEdic &#8211; That&#39;s the consensus I keep getting &#8212; enjoyable, but not that informative.</p>
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		<title>By: Socializing The ReCycle Studio &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Social Media - A Way of Life</title>
		<link>http://www.socialmediaexplorer.com/2008/08/07/adtech-chicago-can-we-please-stop-preaching-to-the-choir/comment-page-1/#comment-1637</link>
		<dc:creator>Socializing The ReCycle Studio &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Social Media - A Way of Life</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Aug 2008 20:00:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] to take over my life, for better or worse.  And that brings me to a video comment posted on Social Media Explorer (I feel like I&#8217;m stalking Jason Falls) that kind of sums things up.  The post was by [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] to take over my life, for better or worse.  And that brings me to a video comment posted on Social Media Explorer (I feel like I&#8217;m stalking Jason Falls) that kind of sums things up.  The post was by [...]</p>
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		<title>By: MartinEdic</title>
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		<dc:creator>MartinEdic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Aug 2008 18:50:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Enjoyed SF though!</description>
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		<title>By: MartinEdic</title>
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		<dc:creator>MartinEdic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Aug 2008 18:49:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You know I went to Ad:Tech SF a few years ago and had the same experience. I was doing SEM and had a meeting scheduled with a Google &#039;expert&#039; who was clearly thrown off to be dealing with someone who actually knew how to manage an Adwords account. He&#039;d been talking to people for two days who barely understood what it was.&lt;br&gt;My personal take is that the advertising agency business is in serious trouble. Social media where its all moving to but they can&#039;t figure out how to bill for it!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You know I went to Ad:Tech SF a few years ago and had the same experience. I was doing SEM and had a meeting scheduled with a Google &#39;expert&#39; who was clearly thrown off to be dealing with someone who actually knew how to manage an Adwords account. He&#39;d been talking to people for two days who barely understood what it was.<br />My personal take is that the advertising agency business is in serious trouble. Social media where its all moving to but they can&#39;t figure out how to bill for it!</p>
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		<title>By: Kipp Bodnar</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kipp Bodnar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Aug 2008 14:47:43 +0000</pubDate>
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