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		<title>By: markmayhew</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Jun 2009 22:37:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>great post, esp. as I was fired last week, by Denny&#039;s restaurants, for using social media (Twitter)</description>
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		<title>By: mark mayhew</title>
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		<dc:creator>mark mayhew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Jun 2009 15:37:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>great post, esp. as I was fired last week, by Denny&#039;s restaurants, for using social media (Twitter)</description>
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		<title>By: nicky</title>
		<link>http://www.socialmediaexplorer.com/social-media-marketing/exploring-social-media-without-getting-fired/comment-page-1/#comment-3831</link>
		<dc:creator>nicky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Nov 2008 21:10:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;There are a lot of factors in play: generational culture, corporate culture, and mostly an environment where communications have all funneled through official &quot;gatekeepers.&quot; It&#039;s a lot to overcome.&quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Kat -  this is a huge thing.  For those reasons and more (such as a lack of understanding and skepticism) large companies can&#039;t simply jump in with both feet,  the risk is too great - and much of what they find frustrating is the focus on tools, Social Media as the latest greatest thing that everyone&#039;s doing... and lack of a business case that tells them how how social media can help them meet business objectives. And let&#039;s not even talk about proprietary or confidential issues...I take heart that a few companies are moving forward...starting internally. But I also know that Social Media isn&#039;t automatically appropriate for every company.&lt;br&gt;So, it&#039;s like any other career aspiration. If your company doesn&#039;t meet your own aspirations and you&#039;re not willing to keep the status quo, then it&#039;s time to find one that does. Change rarely comes from bottom up in a large company.  It&#039;s just the way it is</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;There are a lot of factors in play: generational culture, corporate culture, and mostly an environment where communications have all funneled through official &#8220;gatekeepers.&#8221; It&#39;s a lot to overcome.&#8221;</p>
<p>Kat &#8211;  this is a huge thing.  For those reasons and more (such as a lack of understanding and skepticism) large companies can&#39;t simply jump in with both feet,  the risk is too great &#8211; and much of what they find frustrating is the focus on tools, Social Media as the latest greatest thing that everyone&#39;s doing&#8230; and lack of a business case that tells them how how social media can help them meet business objectives. And let&#39;s not even talk about proprietary or confidential issues&#8230;I take heart that a few companies are moving forward&#8230;starting internally. But I also know that Social Media isn&#39;t automatically appropriate for every company.<br />So, it&#39;s like any other career aspiration. If your company doesn&#39;t meet your own aspirations and you&#39;re not willing to keep the status quo, then it&#39;s time to find one that does. Change rarely comes from bottom up in a large company.  It&#39;s just the way it is</p>
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		<title>By: nicky</title>
		<link>http://www.socialmediaexplorer.com/social-media-marketing/exploring-social-media-without-getting-fired/comment-page-1/#comment-16614</link>
		<dc:creator>nicky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Nov 2008 21:10:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;There are a lot of factors in play: generational culture, corporate culture, and mostly an environment where communications have all funneled through official &quot;gatekeepers.&quot; It&#039;s a lot to overcome.&quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Kat -  this is a huge thing.  For those reasons and more (such as a lack of understanding and skepticism) large companies can&#039;t simply jump in with both feet,  the risk is too great - and much of what they find frustrating is the focus on tools, Social Media as the latest greatest thing that everyone&#039;s doing... and lack of a business case that tells them how how social media can help them meet business objectives. And let&#039;s not even talk about proprietary or confidential issues...I take heart that a few companies are moving forward...starting internally. But I also know that Social Media isn&#039;t automatically appropriate for every company.&lt;br&gt;So, it&#039;s like any other career aspiration. If your company doesn&#039;t meet your own aspirations and you&#039;re not willing to keep the status quo, then it&#039;s time to find one that does. Change rarely comes from bottom up in a large company.  It&#039;s just the way it is</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;There are a lot of factors in play: generational culture, corporate culture, and mostly an environment where communications have all funneled through official &#8220;gatekeepers.&#8221; It&#39;s a lot to overcome.&#8221;</p>
<p>Kat &#8211;  this is a huge thing.  For those reasons and more (such as a lack of understanding and skepticism) large companies can&#39;t simply jump in with both feet,  the risk is too great &#8211; and much of what they find frustrating is the focus on tools, Social Media as the latest greatest thing that everyone&#39;s doing&#8230; and lack of a business case that tells them how how social media can help them meet business objectives. And let&#39;s not even talk about proprietary or confidential issues&#8230;I take heart that a few companies are moving forward&#8230;starting internally. But I also know that Social Media isn&#39;t automatically appropriate for every company.<br />So, it&#39;s like any other career aspiration. If your company doesn&#39;t meet your own aspirations and you&#39;re not willing to keep the status quo, then it&#39;s time to find one that does. Change rarely comes from bottom up in a large company.  It&#39;s just the way it is</p>
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		<title>By: nicky</title>
		<link>http://www.socialmediaexplorer.com/social-media-marketing/exploring-social-media-without-getting-fired/comment-page-1/#comment-3834</link>
		<dc:creator>nicky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Nov 2008 20:56:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Imckeogh - When it comes to Social Media in  corporations, like it or not what we have is a clash of cultures. The culture of most big corporations is to be risk averse and no amount of social media evangelism is going to change that. Most are paranoid at letting everything hang out in whatever forum you care to name. And when you work within those corps you have to play by the rules or not work there. On the other hand some may become convinced in specific areas - if they see how it hits bottom line etc. At the same time, even if you are an employee in said corporation, it is an asset to have and develop this expertise outside your job... and either wait for your chance to influence, go to another company or strike out on your own even doing as a side business.  Life is far too short and careers too fragile (as we have seen) and unreliable NOT to do this. And of course, focus on the businesses that do have the werewithal to experiment - small businesses.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;That way you hold all the cards. I call it picking your battles... and only fighting the ones you can win. As for future employers... if you&#039;re not already working for someone then I would only seek out employers that value all your sides.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Imckeogh &#8211; When it comes to Social Media in  corporations, like it or not what we have is a clash of cultures. The culture of most big corporations is to be risk averse and no amount of social media evangelism is going to change that. Most are paranoid at letting everything hang out in whatever forum you care to name. And when you work within those corps you have to play by the rules or not work there. On the other hand some may become convinced in specific areas &#8211; if they see how it hits bottom line etc. At the same time, even if you are an employee in said corporation, it is an asset to have and develop this expertise outside your job&#8230; and either wait for your chance to influence, go to another company or strike out on your own even doing as a side business.  Life is far too short and careers too fragile (as we have seen) and unreliable NOT to do this. And of course, focus on the businesses that do have the werewithal to experiment &#8211; small businesses.</p>
<p>That way you hold all the cards. I call it picking your battles&#8230; and only fighting the ones you can win. As for future employers&#8230; if you&#39;re not already working for someone then I would only seek out employers that value all your sides.</p>
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		<title>By: nicky</title>
		<link>http://www.socialmediaexplorer.com/social-media-marketing/exploring-social-media-without-getting-fired/comment-page-1/#comment-16610</link>
		<dc:creator>nicky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Nov 2008 20:56:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Imckeogh - When it comes to Social Media in  corporations, like it or not what we have is a clash of cultures. The culture of most big corporations is to be risk averse and no amount of social media evangelism is going to change that. Most are paranoid at letting everything hang out in whatever forum you care to name. And when you work within those corps you have to play by the rules or not work there. On the other hand some may become convinced in specific areas - if they see how it hits bottom line etc. At the same time, even if you are an employee in said corporation, it is an asset to have and develop this expertise outside your job... and either wait for your chance to influence, go to another company or strike out on your own even doing as a side business.  Life is far too short and careers too fragile (as we have seen) and unreliable NOT to do this. And of course, focus on the businesses that do have the werewithal to experiment - small businesses.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;That way you hold all the cards. I call it picking your battles... and only fighting the ones you can win. As for future employers... if you&#039;re not already working for someone then I would only seek out employers that value all your sides.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Imckeogh &#8211; When it comes to Social Media in  corporations, like it or not what we have is a clash of cultures. The culture of most big corporations is to be risk averse and no amount of social media evangelism is going to change that. Most are paranoid at letting everything hang out in whatever forum you care to name. And when you work within those corps you have to play by the rules or not work there. On the other hand some may become convinced in specific areas &#8211; if they see how it hits bottom line etc. At the same time, even if you are an employee in said corporation, it is an asset to have and develop this expertise outside your job&#8230; and either wait for your chance to influence, go to another company or strike out on your own even doing as a side business.  Life is far too short and careers too fragile (as we have seen) and unreliable NOT to do this. And of course, focus on the businesses that do have the werewithal to experiment &#8211; small businesses.</p>
<p>That way you hold all the cards. I call it picking your battles&#8230; and only fighting the ones you can win. As for future employers&#8230; if you&#39;re not already working for someone then I would only seek out employers that value all your sides.</p>
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		<title>By: What I Am Reading on Sunday &#124; Kyle Lacy, Social Media - Indianapolis</title>
		<link>http://www.socialmediaexplorer.com/social-media-marketing/exploring-social-media-without-getting-fired/comment-page-1/#comment-1847</link>
		<dc:creator>What I Am Reading on Sunday &#124; Kyle Lacy, Social Media - Indianapolis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Nov 2008 19:38:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Media Explorer: Great Blog about Social Media by Jason Falls and Kat French What I Am Reading: Exploring Social Media (Without Getting Fired) &#8220;&#8230;ignoring that a company isnâ€™t ready to actively, directly engage customers in [...]</description>
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		<title>By: new media lisa &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Don&#8217;t make me stop this car: Why your boss rejects social media</title>
		<link>http://www.socialmediaexplorer.com/social-media-marketing/exploring-social-media-without-getting-fired/comment-page-1/#comment-1846</link>
		<dc:creator>new media lisa &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Don&#8217;t make me stop this car: Why your boss rejects social media</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 20:40:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] reading about Bob and considering Kat French&#8217;s excellent post about exploring social media without getting fired I clicked over to &#8220;Social Media Advocates, We Have Work to Do.&#8221; And I started to wonder [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] reading about Bob and considering Kat French&#8217;s excellent post about exploring social media without getting fired I clicked over to &#8220;Social Media Advocates, We Have Work to Do.&#8221; And I started to wonder [...]</p>
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		<title>By: KatFrench</title>
		<link>http://www.socialmediaexplorer.com/social-media-marketing/exploring-social-media-without-getting-fired/comment-page-1/#comment-3836</link>
		<dc:creator>KatFrench</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 11:47:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chris, &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Sorry, I should have clarified; I meant that he made the designated department look bad &lt;em&gt;internally.&lt;/em&gt;  I agree, the customer doesn&#039;t make that kind of distinction and doesn&#039;t need to know about the internal workings of the company.  And if they had been open to it, that kind of pass off &lt;em&gt;could&lt;/em&gt; have happened.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;But how likely was it, given most corporate cultures you&#039;ve encountered?   There is too much territoriality and defensiveness in most companies for that to have been a likely outcome. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I was really hoping taking that more narrative, storytelling approach would resonate.  I was kind of riffing off Chris Brogan&#039;s &quot;social media marketer,&quot; &quot;social media teacher&quot; and &quot;social media pastor&quot; posts.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;And the &quot;What if&quot; scenario I created for &quot;Bob&quot; was pretty much pulled from my own experiences, as I mentioned above.  I was in a company that wasn&#039;t interested in growing in the same direction I wanted to grow in.  So I found a way to nurture that desire for growth outside the office.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;In the short term, for several months, it made working there much easier and less stressful.  After a while, though, the very same growth pushed me to move on to a new job that was going to be a better fit.  But I made that move from a position of strength, not desperation, and with the tools and experience built up that would allow me to succeed. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Eventually, if you keep growing, it&#039;s time to move on to a bigger container.  :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chris, </p>
<p>Sorry, I should have clarified; I meant that he made the designated department look bad <em>internally.</em>  I agree, the customer doesn&#39;t make that kind of distinction and doesn&#39;t need to know about the internal workings of the company.  And if they had been open to it, that kind of pass off <em>could</em> have happened.  </p>
<p>But how likely was it, given most corporate cultures you&#39;ve encountered?   There is too much territoriality and defensiveness in most companies for that to have been a likely outcome. </p>
<p>I was really hoping taking that more narrative, storytelling approach would resonate.  I was kind of riffing off Chris Brogan&#39;s &#8220;social media marketer,&#8221; &#8220;social media teacher&#8221; and &#8220;social media pastor&#8221; posts.  </p>
<p>And the &#8220;What if&#8221; scenario I created for &#8220;Bob&#8221; was pretty much pulled from my own experiences, as I mentioned above.  I was in a company that wasn&#39;t interested in growing in the same direction I wanted to grow in.  So I found a way to nurture that desire for growth outside the office.  </p>
<p>In the short term, for several months, it made working there much easier and less stressful.  After a while, though, the very same growth pushed me to move on to a new job that was going to be a better fit.  But I made that move from a position of strength, not desperation, and with the tools and experience built up that would allow me to succeed. </p>
<p>Eventually, if you keep growing, it&#39;s time to move on to a bigger container.  <img src='http://www.socialmediaexplorer.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: KatFrench</title>
		<link>http://www.socialmediaexplorer.com/social-media-marketing/exploring-social-media-without-getting-fired/comment-page-1/#comment-16608</link>
		<dc:creator>KatFrench</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 11:47:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chris, &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Sorry, I should have clarified; I meant that he made the designated department look bad &lt;em&gt;internally.&lt;/em&gt;  I agree, the customer doesn&#039;t make that kind of distinction and doesn&#039;t need to know about the internal workings of the company.  And if they had been open to it, that kind of pass off &lt;em&gt;could&lt;/em&gt; have happened.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;But how likely was it, given most corporate cultures you&#039;ve encountered?   There is too much territoriality and defensiveness in most companies for that to have been a likely outcome. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I was really hoping taking that more narrative, storytelling approach would resonate.  I was kind of riffing off Chris Brogan&#039;s &quot;social media marketer,&quot; &quot;social media teacher&quot; and &quot;social media pastor&quot; posts.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;And the &quot;What if&quot; scenario I created for &quot;Bob&quot; was pretty much pulled from my own experiences, as I mentioned above.  I was in a company that wasn&#039;t interested in growing in the same direction I wanted to grow in.  So I found a way to nurture that desire for growth outside the office.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;In the short term, for several months, it made working there much easier and less stressful.  After a while, though, the very same growth pushed me to move on to a new job that was going to be a better fit.  But I made that move from a position of strength, not desperation, and with the tools and experience built up that would allow me to succeed. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Eventually, if you keep growing, it&#039;s time to move on to a bigger container.  :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chris, </p>
<p>Sorry, I should have clarified; I meant that he made the designated department look bad <em>internally.</em>  I agree, the customer doesn&#39;t make that kind of distinction and doesn&#39;t need to know about the internal workings of the company.  And if they had been open to it, that kind of pass off <em>could</em> have happened.  </p>
<p>But how likely was it, given most corporate cultures you&#39;ve encountered?   There is too much territoriality and defensiveness in most companies for that to have been a likely outcome. </p>
<p>I was really hoping taking that more narrative, storytelling approach would resonate.  I was kind of riffing off Chris Brogan&#39;s &#8220;social media marketer,&#8221; &#8220;social media teacher&#8221; and &#8220;social media pastor&#8221; posts.  </p>
<p>And the &#8220;What if&#8221; scenario I created for &#8220;Bob&#8221; was pretty much pulled from my own experiences, as I mentioned above.  I was in a company that wasn&#39;t interested in growing in the same direction I wanted to grow in.  So I found a way to nurture that desire for growth outside the office.  </p>
<p>In the short term, for several months, it made working there much easier and less stressful.  After a while, though, the very same growth pushed me to move on to a new job that was going to be a better fit.  But I made that move from a position of strength, not desperation, and with the tools and experience built up that would allow me to succeed. </p>
<p>Eventually, if you keep growing, it&#39;s time to move on to a bigger container.  <img src='http://www.socialmediaexplorer.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: KatFrench</title>
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		<dc:creator>KatFrench</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 11:35:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s tempting to go for vanilla, isn&#039;t it?  You don&#039;t know what that prospective future employer will want, so why not try to be a blank slate?  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;And it sounds like you&#039;ve recognized that the answer is &quot;Because a blank slate is boring.&quot;  I know lots of people in social media who have WILDLY different opinions on lots of topics that aren&#039;t &quot;safe&quot; or &quot;neutral.&quot;  We all get along because we treat each other with respect, and remain connected despite our differences.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;And you&#039;re right--as a free agent you have an unprecedented opportunity to put your best, most authentic self out there, and hopefully that will attract an employer who is a terrific fit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#39;s tempting to go for vanilla, isn&#39;t it?  You don&#39;t know what that prospective future employer will want, so why not try to be a blank slate?  </p>
<p>And it sounds like you&#39;ve recognized that the answer is &#8220;Because a blank slate is boring.&#8221;  I know lots of people in social media who have WILDLY different opinions on lots of topics that aren&#39;t &#8220;safe&#8221; or &#8220;neutral.&#8221;  We all get along because we treat each other with respect, and remain connected despite our differences.  </p>
<p>And you&#39;re right&#8211;as a free agent you have an unprecedented opportunity to put your best, most authentic self out there, and hopefully that will attract an employer who is a terrific fit.</p>
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