Redefining FriendFeed

May 18, 2009 · Comments

Jason Falls

Jason Falls

Jason Falls

For the longest time I have had a rather eye-rolling reaction when people mention FriendFeed. The life streaming service certainly has its merits and aggregating all of your social activity into one place is a nice function. However, using FriendFeed as your primary place of interaction constricts the number of people you can interact with (not everyone uses FriendFeed), while conversely, avoiding FriendFeed means it becomes an impersonal, automated broadcaster of what you do.

I’ve always hated the fact people could comment on a Social Media Explorer post repositioned on FriendFeed.  And, unless I log in and monitor each post, I’d never know. Several application developers and companies have fixed that problem by aggregating comments into one place. Backtype does it. Disqus claims to, though their unification functionality doesn’t seem to work on my blog. There are also plugins you can download that will integrate FriendFeed comments with those from your blog as well.

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But I must remember that each individual uses these applications in the ways that make the most sense to them. Just because Jason Falls doesn’t use it, doesn’t mean it might be useful for you.

Enter Laurence Borel, or Lolly to those of us who know her. Lolly, the author of Blog Till You Drop, and I met and chatted all afternoon Saturday about a variety of topics. When FriendFeed came up and she saw my eye roll, Lolly explained to me how she gets value out of the service.

Following someone on FriendFeed allows you a more holistic representation of their social media activity. It’s more than just following someone’s blog. You follow their life, in a sense. But most people follow anyone they know or those who follows them, etc. Lolly has decided to use the tool much more strategically. She is very selective in who she follows so that she only sees what the most important or influential people to her are reading, sharing, saying and writing. It’s kind of a super personalized, all-inclusive RSS feed for just those you consider important enough to follow.

She is using the service not as another social network, not as a conversation point, but as a utility to help her know what her thought leader list is doing or up to. This cuts out a great deal of noise in Lolly’s day. She gets more impactful information easier and with less hassle. She also cuts down on a lot of RSS feeds and time spent browsing her feed reader as now the most important blogs and information are available on FriendFeed. She can read her feeds with a lesser priority.

Lolly also reports FriendFeed offers a much more meaningful level of search for public relations and blogger relations folks because it’s scanning the most important people to you, not everyone. You could use FriendFeed and this influencer tracking methodoligy to identify other blogs and bloggers worth adding to your list.

So I was proven wrong about FriendFeed by my own theory. Everyone uses the tools differently. Those who optimize them to produce the outcomes and payoffs they need most are those that can call themselves, “successful,” in using them.

This theory goes for other applications as well. The way I use Twitter may not be right for you, your company, etc. The way Ernst & Young uses Facebook may not make sense for your company. You have to find an appropriate way to use each tool and it will likely differ from those around you.

How do you use FriendFeed? Set it up as an influencer monitoring model and share some questions, comments or concerns you might have with the outcomes. Can you discipline yourself to only follow 10-20 people on FriendFeed or is the temptation to grow another network too much? Are there other uses not even mentioned here we should let others know about? And what about your approach to Twitter? Facebook? Blogging? Do you do it differently than the norm? If so, how and why.

As always, the comments are yours.

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  • I'd tended to avoid FriendFeed as well - more than enough social media sites to worry about already :-)

    Anyroad, after readying your post I decided to check it out again and I can see (I think!) that it might well be a time saver rather than waster.

    Thank you for writing about this.
  • The big thing that's preventing me from utilizing Friend Feed the way Lolly does is that I imported a bunch of my contacts from twitter, facebook and elsewhere and set them up in non-sensical groups. I'm fiending for a bulk move tool that allows me to easily move contacts to new groups.

    Also, you're not the only one with issues with the Disqus social media reactions. I've yet to see it actually pull in any external comments (even though I know for a fact they're out there). I roll with backtype which is nice but doesn't access as many sources as I'd like.

    I'd love to know how the Scobleizer manages his FF contacts. Wonder if he's got some tool to do bulk moves or if he just took enough time one day to get everything nice and organized.
  • I have been using FriendFeed for 16 months now and spend some time everyday on friend management. Most of my friends have been hand added.
  • Ah, figured as much Robert. Guess I'll have to sit down and clean up my friendfeed by one by one, one of these days. Thanks for letting us know.
  • Cool
  • This is exactly why I always seek out people that are very adept at using a particular social tool (esp ones I don't use much), and have them show me how they use that tool. It took 6 months before I really 'got' Twitter, and that's mainly because I kept asking people 'what do you get out of Twitter? How are you using it?'

    The 'experts' in this space are the ones that keep asking questions, and keep trying to learn. And don't let Lolly fool you, she's def a social media guru ;)
  • Well, that's a very helpful perspective. I was like you -- didn't quite grasp the whole FF thing. But, I really like Lolly's approach. Maybe I'll start out that way to get used to it and then branch out from there ...

    Thanks for sharing a different way of using the tool.

    Heather (@prtini)
  • Excellent, Jason.
  • Jason,

    I am glad you changed your mind about FriendFeed!

    Another strength of FriendFeed is the real time search feature which very much reminds me of Twitter Search but better! It's an invaluable tool for PRs and marketers wishing to track what people say about their brands/products in dozens of different social media sites.

    Shameless self-promotion, I have just published my 5 top tips on how to make the most of FriendFeed on my blog :)
  • Thanks Lolly. And thanks for continuing to blog your heart out. Love your work and glad I know you.
  • Love it. I was unsuccessfully trying to use twitter as a human filtered RSS reader but it just doesn't scale well. Love the tip on following a few people and also love the tip about setting up distinct rooms.

    Haven't really spent much time on it since the redesign, but have noticed how easy they made it to port social graphs from facebook and twitter into the service. Pretty cool.

    -chris
  • Good points, Chris. I'm just glad I've been reminded to revisit and review tools that are already out there. You never know when a slightly different angle will change your perspective.
  • My interest in FriendFeed has been low for awhile, but I'm starting to spend a bit of time there again. The comprehensive view of a person's Web activity is probably the major drawing point of FriendFeed, as I mentioned in the following post last year: FriendFeed allows us to see the whole elephant http://broadcasting-brain.com/2008/05/23/friend.... In my case, as an example, I pump my Del.icio.us links into my FriendFeed stream, but I tend not to share them anywhere else. I could feed them in Twitter, I suppose, but I think that they would swamp and overwhelm my Twitter stream at times, so people who are interested in that sort of thing could check out my FriendFeed stream. Aggregation.

    The other part of FriendFeed's appeal is the extensive built-in commenting. Yes, it can be a pain when people comment in FriendFeed instead of your blog. However, as people like Robert Scoble have repeatedly shown, a short link post or comment on Twitter can be extended out into an interesting conversation with multiple participants. FriendFeed's not a perfect system, but it's very flexible. Ultimately though, usefulness is in the eye, and hand, of the beholder.
  • Couldn't have said it better. Thanks Mark.
  • Great point, we all get value out of different tools in different ways, it's what works for each person that matters. This also reminds me that I need to start paying more attention to my FriendFeed account...it's too easy to get swamped with everything else and let that go
  • Thanks Adam. I see a lot of value in FriendFeed, particularly with this added perspective. I'm sure we can all find a use for it somehow. Thanks for stopping by again!
  • Great post. FriendFeed has helped me to get away from all of the various feed reader services that I once had. If only I'd caught on sooner I could have avoided spending money on one undisclosed premium feed reader...One thing that I will continue to say about them and hope that someone hears me is that they really need a better mobile app. If they had that, it would eliminate my daily need to switch back and forth between Twitter and FB on my phone. B/c like Lolly, who you cited above hinted at, everything that your buds online do if they are on FB or Twitter will end up on FF anyway, so you might as well simplify your life and use FF.
  • Good point, Benin. I would hope someone there is listening. Great idea!
  • Thanks Jason. True, hopefully they will get that taken care of.
    Until then, I guess fftogo.com will be my app of choice, even though
    there is a lot that it could use to be a fully functional ff app.
  • By redefining FriendFeed, I may just have to rethink FriendFeed. I, too, hardly ever check my account. Recently, though, I have had several new followers. I am curious about it's apparent growing popularity and may give it another try. Twitter is still where I 'hang out' the most.
  • Right there with you, Mike. But as Lolly pointed out, it has its uses. We just have to figure them out for ourselves.

    Thanks for the comment!
  • Like Scoble mentioned, I'm using it that way too. I like to have a few groups set up, so I can track friends, thought leaders, news, etc. It makes life much easier.

    Although you still had a great point about needing to be on FF in the first place. I have a few friends I wish I could include in my groups, but they are not on FF.

    Great post Jason!
  • Thanks Dave. Appreciate the perspective and thoughts. You rock!
  • elizabethsosnow
    Eureka! Finally a strategy that helps make sense of FF. I do think Lolly is onto something here.

    I also think FF may have longer term merit, though I'm not sure exactly what that looks like. Maybe now I'll be more interested in finding out...?
  • When you do, please come and tell us. We're always interested in new takes and new ideas. Thanks E!
  • I really really like the way in which Lolly is utilizing FF. I've never gotten into that stream because like you said Jason...it's just to much and to disorganized for anyone to really make heads or tails. But if you reduce noise and cut out a lot of people who don't add value...then suddenly it becomes insanely valuable. Probably going to go unfollow a bunch of people know on there...and use it in the opposite way I use Twitter.
  • Good plan, Stuart. Certainly, it's not the only way to do it, but again, everyone uses the tools their own way. Finding yours is part of the fun. Enjoy.
  • Stuartfoster: on friendfeed you NEVER need to unfollow. If your main list gets too noisy because you followed too many of the wrong types, just start another list and put your favorite people into that list. That way you can occassionally peek back at your old list to see if there's any value there.

    Jason: the commenting problem is solveable. Go see TechCrunch. If I comment on any of its posts on friendfeed my comments show up on TechCrunch. They are using a wordpress plugin to do that.
  • Thanks for stopping by Robert. I mentioned several solutions to the commenting problem, including the WP plugin. But none of them solve every problem for each blog. You have to manually install something to help you if you embrace FF, which makes it an extra step. Certainly not hard, but don't make me work hard, man. I got enough to do. Just my take, though. Thanks again for the two cents.
  • Nice, Robert. That definitely adds another level of usefulness to the service. *(Now I can see why you live in there)

    Thanks :)
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