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		<title>By: Ecommerce Solutions</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ecommerce Solutions</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Apr 2013 08:01:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The rise of mobile technology allows advertisers to communicate with potential customers in a unique way personal. Proximity marketing integrates physical and digital domains using mobile devices to reach consumers in the largest point of impact, and the provision of bargain shoppers and increase sales.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The rise of mobile technology allows advertisers to communicate with potential customers in a unique way personal. Proximity marketing integrates physical and digital domains using mobile devices to reach consumers in the largest point of impact, and the provision of bargain shoppers and increase sales.</p>
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		<title>By: Ben</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ben</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2013 02:28:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Nichole, Greate Article , I do have a social network site called www.imgbond.com and i have been trying to promote it but I get shutdown a lot any suggestion what I should do?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Nichole, Greate Article , I do have a social network site called <a href="http://www.imgbond.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.imgbond.com</a> and i have been trying to promote it but I get shutdown a lot any suggestion what I should do?</p>
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		<title>By: Social business recap: Most popular stories from the last month &#124; communicatto, a digital marketing agency &#124; Digital marketing for large companies, associations, and not-for-profits.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Social business recap: Most popular stories from the last month &#124; communicatto, a digital marketing agency &#124; Digital marketing for large companies, associations, and not-for-profits.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jan 2013 18:21:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] To be successful, social media has to fail &#8211; As companies start to invest more heavily into social media, it will quickly bring out the magnifying glass. It’s a big deal. For many companies social media is finally getting its own line in the budget for 2013. Once companies start making real investments in social media, the pressure is on for marketers to quickly demonstrate real ROI. Not those fluffy reports on how many fans and followers were generated. Here’s a model for success that can help marketers and executives get on the same page for social media investments. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] To be successful, social media has to fail &#8211; As companies start to invest more heavily into social media, it will quickly bring out the magnifying glass. It’s a big deal. For many companies social media is finally getting its own line in the budget for 2013. Once companies start making real investments in social media, the pressure is on for marketers to quickly demonstrate real ROI. Not those fluffy reports on how many fans and followers were generated. Here’s a model for success that can help marketers and executives get on the same page for social media investments. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Meagan Dahl</title>
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		<dc:creator>Meagan Dahl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jan 2013 17:28:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great article, and I whole-heartedly agree that losing is winning (long-term at least). What we have to grasp is that the digital space is growing exponentially and tools change in and out all the time (iPhone 1,2, 3, 4, 4S, 5, 988). Testing out what works and what doesn&#039;t is the most important strategy you can implement, and when you think you&#039;re done testing, you better start retesting and optimizing anew. I&#039;m in charge of implementing social media strategies internally and man, it&#039;s been a school of hard knocks trying to develop a voice on various channels. From a data perspective I&#039;m grateful for any blip in the positive and try to understand that downturns aren&#039;t necessarily my fault, it&#039;s just how the Internet goes. You&#039;re right, we have to see digital as fluid and organic and take our loses as growth experiences instead of beatdowns.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great article, and I whole-heartedly agree that losing is winning (long-term at least). What we have to grasp is that the digital space is growing exponentially and tools change in and out all the time (iPhone 1,2, 3, 4, 4S, 5, 988). Testing out what works and what doesn&#8217;t is the most important strategy you can implement, and when you think you&#8217;re done testing, you better start retesting and optimizing anew. I&#8217;m in charge of implementing social media strategies internally and man, it&#8217;s been a school of hard knocks trying to develop a voice on various channels. From a data perspective I&#8217;m grateful for any blip in the positive and try to understand that downturns aren&#8217;t necessarily my fault, it&#8217;s just how the Internet goes. You&#8217;re right, we have to see digital as fluid and organic and take our loses as growth experiences instead of beatdowns.</p>
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		<title>By: joey</title>
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		<dc:creator>joey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Dec 2012 08:04:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>you rightly pointed out are critical to using social as a real business driver.
  &lt;a title=&quot;TIP122&quot; href=&quot;http://www.hqew.net/product-data/TIP122&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;TIP122&lt;/a&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>you rightly pointed out are critical to using social as a real business driver.<br />
  <a title="TIP122" href="http://www.hqew.net/product-data/TIP122" rel="nofollow">TIP122</a></p>
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		<title>By: Mi resumen de la semana: n. 117 &#124; Blog de Marketing Online de Tristán Elósegui</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mi resumen de la semana: n. 117 &#124; Blog de Marketing Online de Tristán Elósegui</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Dec 2012 06:15:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] 1. Para tener éxito, tu estrategia en Social Media tiene que fracasar [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Jeremy Dent</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeremy Dent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Dec 2012 21:21:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Social media is just another channel&quot;. Buddy, have you got this wrong big time!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Social media is just another channel&#8221;. Buddy, have you got this wrong big time!</p>
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		<title>By: Jeremy Dent</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeremy Dent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Dec 2012 21:19:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Johnson and Scholes definition of strategy is &quot;...the direction and scope of an organisation over the long-term: which achieves advantage for the organisation through its configuration of resources within a challenging environment, to meet the needs of markets and to fulfil stakeholder expectations&quot;.

I agree that organisations don&#039;t have strategies, they have strategic plans but your definition is populist and misleading.

Nearly all organisations I am working with understand clearly what social business is and are making plans to get there. 

Yes, we will have to disagree about &quot;return on investment&quot;. Funds for social media come from various sources and capital investment and direct and indirect costs are clearly distinguished. And we measure returns on each source.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Johnson and Scholes definition of strategy is &#8220;&#8230;the direction and scope of an organisation over the long-term: which achieves advantage for the organisation through its configuration of resources within a challenging environment, to meet the needs of markets and to fulfil stakeholder expectations&#8221;.</p>
<p>I agree that organisations don&#8217;t have strategies, they have strategic plans but your definition is populist and misleading.</p>
<p>Nearly all organisations I am working with understand clearly what social business is and are making plans to get there. </p>
<p>Yes, we will have to disagree about &#8220;return on investment&#8221;. Funds for social media come from various sources and capital investment and direct and indirect costs are clearly distinguished. And we measure returns on each source.</p>
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		<title>By: Hunter Boyle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hunter Boyle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Dec 2012 17:12:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Nichole,

 I think you really nailed the problems with this post. For me, one of the handful of money quotes is:

&quot;We need full transparency and your marketing team needs to know that 
they won’t get the verbal beat down in a meeting if their 
data doesn’t show a resounding success every time. Testing is a huge 
part of driving social media success, which means that each social media
 failure is in fact a success because it is one step closer to figuring 
out what will work. The challenge is that, in many risk-averse 
companies, a single failure can kill an entire program.&quot;

The fun, experimental phase of social is still playing out in countless organizations. Especially those that put responsibility for social media in the hands of younger team members because they &quot;get it&quot; and knew some tools and terms. Unfortunately, many of them didn&#039;t or don&#039;t know the deeper levels of strategy that you rightly pointed out are critical to using social as a real business driver.

The best organizations are using social to do both: have fun and build an engaging brand persona *and* realize the bottom-line impact, whatever their KPIs may be for social. But those organizations are still pretty rare, and it takes time to get there, so hopefully in 2013 we&#039;ll see more of those light bulbs turning on. This post is a great place to start. Thanks for sharing!

Cheers -- Hunter
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Nichole,</p>
<p> I think you really nailed the problems with this post. For me, one of the handful of money quotes is:</p>
<p>&#8220;We need full transparency and your marketing team needs to know that<br />
they won’t get the verbal beat down in a meeting if their<br />
data doesn’t show a resounding success every time. Testing is a huge<br />
part of driving social media success, which means that each social media<br />
 failure is in fact a success because it is one step closer to figuring<br />
out what will work. The challenge is that, in many risk-averse<br />
companies, a single failure can kill an entire program.&#8221;</p>
<p>The fun, experimental phase of social is still playing out in countless organizations. Especially those that put responsibility for social media in the hands of younger team members because they &#8220;get it&#8221; and knew some tools and terms. Unfortunately, many of them didn&#8217;t or don&#8217;t know the deeper levels of strategy that you rightly pointed out are critical to using social as a real business driver.</p>
<p>The best organizations are using social to do both: have fun and build an engaging brand persona *and* realize the bottom-line impact, whatever their KPIs may be for social. But those organizations are still pretty rare, and it takes time to get there, so hopefully in 2013 we&#8217;ll see more of those light bulbs turning on. This post is a great place to start. Thanks for sharing!</p>
<p>Cheers &#8212; Hunter</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Weyland</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark Weyland</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Dec 2012 07:22:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nichole, its a very good article! I must say that you have done a great job at it. 

Even I think that the title could have been rephrased a bit. 

Agreed that Social Media can give benefits in the long-run, provided it is planned and executed really well, and even the fact that Social Media is not just limited to Facebook and Twitter. But the fact is that any general marketing strategy would require this. The difference lies when we talk about the reach and demographics, and the methods used to evaluate the execution and results. 

Otherwise I really like your article. Very well analyzed and written. Great job!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nichole, its a very good article! I must say that you have done a great job at it. </p>
<p>Even I think that the title could have been rephrased a bit. </p>
<p>Agreed that Social Media can give benefits in the long-run, provided it is planned and executed really well, and even the fact that Social Media is not just limited to Facebook and Twitter. But the fact is that any general marketing strategy would require this. The difference lies when we talk about the reach and demographics, and the methods used to evaluate the execution and results. </p>
<p>Otherwise I really like your article. Very well analyzed and written. Great job!</p>
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		<title>By: Nichole Kelly</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nichole Kelly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2012 20:18:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jeremy - I&#039;m sorry, but I&quot;m going to have to respectfully disagree with you here. You&#039;re using very narrow definitions of words that don&#039;t fit with the business context you refer to. 

Businesses make a variety of type of &quot;investments&quot;. One of those is a &quot;capital investment&quot; which absolutely refers to a capital outlay are you mention. But they also make &quot;human capital investments&quot; which refers to the money they pay their people who invest their time in one project over another. For every hour their is an opportunity cost for not spending time on something else. Social media comes with a variety of investments, both capital investments and human capital investments. I&#039;m not sure where you see a &quot;loose&quot; use of return on investment. I&#039;ve always been very clear that return on investment is (revenue - cost of investment)/cost of investment and we don&#039;t get to redefine ROI because it doesn&#039;t fit with what we want to measure. I stand pretty firm on that. But it doesn&#039;t mean we can&#039;t supplement ROI with other metrics that are valuable to the organization, provided they align with business objectives.

Finally, I&#039;m not sure where you are coming from when you say I misuse the term &quot;strategy&quot;. The definition for strategy (which was included in the post) is a plan of action designed to achieve a particular goal. With that in mind it was used appropriately in the post. Strategies do not have to be at the organizational level. In fact, I would argue that businesses don&#039;t have &quot;strategies&quot;. Businesses have strategic objectives and each department develops strategies that are designed to achieve those objectives, which is just another word for goals. 

The problem with your premise is that you assume businesses are ready to even entertain the notion of &quot;social business&quot;. There are far more businesses that are still trying to wrap their heads around how to use social media to achieve strategic objectives than there are organizations ready to talk about full immersion of social media in the organization. 

That&#039;s like taking the invention of the light bulb and saying okay, now we&#039;re ready to run the infrastructure for global electricity. How about we figure out how to use the light bulb to light this room first?

So, with that, thanks so much for commenting. I guess we&#039;ll just have to agree to disagree on this one. :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jeremy &#8211; I&#8217;m sorry, but I&#8221;m going to have to respectfully disagree with you here. You&#8217;re using very narrow definitions of words that don&#8217;t fit with the business context you refer to. </p>
<p>Businesses make a variety of type of &#8220;investments&#8221;. One of those is a &#8220;capital investment&#8221; which absolutely refers to a capital outlay are you mention. But they also make &#8220;human capital investments&#8221; which refers to the money they pay their people who invest their time in one project over another. For every hour their is an opportunity cost for not spending time on something else. Social media comes with a variety of investments, both capital investments and human capital investments. I&#8217;m not sure where you see a &#8220;loose&#8221; use of return on investment. I&#8217;ve always been very clear that return on investment is (revenue &#8211; cost of investment)/cost of investment and we don&#8217;t get to redefine ROI because it doesn&#8217;t fit with what we want to measure. I stand pretty firm on that. But it doesn&#8217;t mean we can&#8217;t supplement ROI with other metrics that are valuable to the organization, provided they align with business objectives.</p>
<p>Finally, I&#8217;m not sure where you are coming from when you say I misuse the term &#8220;strategy&#8221;. The definition for strategy (which was included in the post) is a plan of action designed to achieve a particular goal. With that in mind it was used appropriately in the post. Strategies do not have to be at the organizational level. In fact, I would argue that businesses don&#8217;t have &#8220;strategies&#8221;. Businesses have strategic objectives and each department develops strategies that are designed to achieve those objectives, which is just another word for goals. </p>
<p>The problem with your premise is that you assume businesses are ready to even entertain the notion of &#8220;social business&#8221;. There are far more businesses that are still trying to wrap their heads around how to use social media to achieve strategic objectives than there are organizations ready to talk about full immersion of social media in the organization. </p>
<p>That&#8217;s like taking the invention of the light bulb and saying okay, now we&#8217;re ready to run the infrastructure for global electricity. How about we figure out how to use the light bulb to light this room first?</p>
<p>So, with that, thanks so much for commenting. I guess we&#8217;ll just have to agree to disagree on this one. <img src='http://www.socialmediaexplorer.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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